tcs looks bed and smales bed
dont give them your monney
Hi Amber ? I’m considering to buy their programs (TCS Foreclosures) Would you recommend it? I think they are legit but I would like to find out from someone who has tried therr course ? Sincerely ? Raffi
Andrew ? Did u ever try their program? Would u recommend it? ? Thanks ? Raffi
Hey Raffi, ? I did try their program., luckly I had a friend who purchased it.? It was pure garbage.? I recomend Real Vest Network. ?
Hello Andrew… ? Who and/or what is Real Vest Network? ? ?
Hello,
I have read all the pros and cons about tcs and i just got a call from them today. I’m suppose to listen to a conference call. I was told that for 2K i could start right away making money. If it is that easy then why i am i paying you 2k that i could put down on my own home. I really want to get into short sales. Could some one please explain to me how it works and what i need to do to get started? You can contact me at aasawyer@tx.rr.com?
Thank you for your time.
TCS-? THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DISCRIBE HOW TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AND MIS REPRESENTED BY TCS OTHER THAN TO SAY I WOULD NEVER GO NEAR THIS “COMPANY”, ANDREW WARDIEN SHOULD BE ARRESTED AS WELL AS PATRIC GROM, I AM CURRENTLY IN CONTACT WITH THE IRVINE DISTRICT ATTORNEY"S OFFICE AND WOULD NOTHING BETTER THAN TO SEE ALL OF THIER SCAMS STOPPED AND RE-FUNDS BE MADE----I WON"T HOLD MY BREATH ON THAT ONE—TO SEE THEM BEHIND BARS!!!
Would you please tell me if you have any additional information about TCS. I am considering buying in. Your opinion would be appreciated. Thank You
Hello Andrew, ? I live in Texas, where the foreclosure rate is at an all time high. Properties here can be purchased for pennies on the dollar. If you would be willing to show me how to work short sale properties, I would be willing to pay you a commission for your assistance. ? Just today, I ran across a property that is owned by a pro basketball player who is desperate to sell. The property originally was listed for 1.9 million dollars; however today it is going for less than 800 thousand. If this is something that might interest you, please respond via email to fredericksander@aol.com
??? I worked there for one month-.??I watched them go through every laid off car sales person and loan officer in So Cal.??? Every warm lead I dug up got snatched up by someone else and I never got a dime for all those hours of pushing that “next call” button.??
???After watching another of?Andrew’s mid day pep talk and that piece of white spit stretching up and down on the corner of his mouth- followed by that tight jean wearing jock Patrick blabering away
the Koolaid wore off and I quit.
??? I don’t know what I was selling- but was trained and re trained &?told not to say something I was told to say the day before.?
??? All I can say is there is a sucker born every minute and they will be in biz a long time Or until they get sued for not paying minimum wage or for Wire fraud- or ?
Hi I’m considering TCS but still kind of not sold.You sound like you have a proven technique could give more info on your technique or train me on how to get this done. Willing to pay
We can talk…check out my site.
This company makes all kinds of promisess and they don’t deliver.? As a matter of fact, they outright lied to me.? I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the positive comments posted on this site are by TCS themselves.? I don’t believe they have very many investors and they do tell you to look for your own.?
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A very strong “buyer beware” from someone who fell for their pitch and who has been an entrepreneur, and involved with real estate, all of my life.? There are so many other programs out there, just do some research.
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Consider this … I have nothing to gain from posting this - I’ve already lost my money.
This company makes all kinds of promisess and they don’t deliver.? As a matter of fact, they outright lied to me.? I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the positive comments posted on this site are by TCS themselves.? I don’t believe they have very many investors and they do tell you to look for your own.? ? A very strong “buyer beware” from someone who fell for their pitch and who has been an entrepreneur, and involved with real estate, all of my life.? There are so many other programs out there, just do some research. ? Consider this … I have nothing to gain from posting this - I’ve already lost my money.
See for yourself: ? http://www.maine.gov/pfr/securities/adminorders/Trinity_CDO.htm ? Also, they had an “F” rating with BBB.org several months ago.? I just rechecked and now it’s a B-.? Interesting??? They are not a member of BBB.
If you ever signed up with RealtyTrac you will get a sales call from TCS because they are partners.?? I fell for their telephone pitch on how to make big money in REOs and Short Sales.?? They charged me $7500.? What I found out after spending over a $1000 in postage and letters, that your entire success depends on distressed homeowners responding to your marketing efforts.?? I got less than 1% return rate on?direct mail and those who did respond thought I was a scam artist because the TCS way is to ask for money upfront from homeowners which is exactly what the media is telling people not to do.???I filed a complaint with the BBB.?? My?initial gut check was correct… ?“If it’s too good to be true then it probably isn’t.”???
I’ll keep an eye out on this post for a class action lawsuit.? I’m sure you will have plenty of support including my own.
My experience with tcs was totally different. First, they always told us not to take money up front, and that it is illegal to take money from distressed homeowners. They said upfront that direct mail has a very low return, so send a lot.? And they said that the best way to get leads is through relationships with real estate agents. From my experience, it all depends on how you are self driven, and willing to learn.? I called some agents which thought I was scam, but then I asked TCS what I was doing wrong, and what exactly should I say, and I became better and better.? It all takes practice and time. Bellow is my first success story that I just shared with TCS ??I wanted to share my success story about a Townhouse in North Hollywood.? Due to the great coaching, and teaching of TCS I was able to negotiate the townhouse to $119k + closing costs (total was about $128k)?Originally I was planning to assign it, and we got 2 cash offers for $139k, 3 (financing) offers for $165k, and one offer for $185.? My partner and a family member decided to buy the property, and now it is rented for $1350. After HOA dues, Insurance, and property tax they are making about 8.5% return. ?I consider this a great success especially since I did TONS?of mistakes which cost me a lot of money. Next time, it will be even better. ?Thank?you TCS for your support and knowledge.? For me, the $7,500 was well worth it, even though I had challenges and mistakes. ? ?
Hello my name is Patrick Grom, Director of Training with TCS
Foreclosures.? I am making this post in response to some of the
comments on this forum about TCS and myself.
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We have been in business over 8 years.? I ask anybody that has a question or a problem about TCS feel free to contact me at coach@tcsforeclosures.com or call my office.?
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As for the response to some of the posts, that I don’t think deserve
much attention, but I will defend myself.? First for the former
employee that says that kool aid wore off and my Tight Jeans, First we
have a professional enviroment that means slacks and ties, and I almost
always I wear a suit.? I am sorry that the job did not work for you,
and wish you the best of luck.? Sometimes people are looking for jobs
for a reason.
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2nd and more important the poster golfguy650 and when you click his
name he says his name is Rick Smith.? First Rick Smith I do not have a
client with the name Rick Smith or Richard Smith.? So either not using
your real name or not really a client of TCS.? I would go with the
second since your posts are not close to our business.? We do not do
anything really with REOs unless my client is looking to purchase the
property themselves.? You don’t need much training with REOs.? Secondly
we never charge or ask a homeowner for money just like one of my newer
clients posted after that post.? In fact all my sample letters say
"Free consultation, or “We will never charge you a dime for our
services”.? Obviously you never used my sample letters (which sounds
like you are not a client again).? If you happen to be a client once
again feel free to contact me.? Also what else have you done for lead
generation, like referrals.?
How did the 10 or more responses you got from your mailing go.?
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Then there are other posts made by annonymous posters, which is
always strange.? We have no legal matters against TCS, the District
Attorney is not looking into our business.? Not sure why people would
make up such claims but in this business nothing really suprises me.?
If the annonymous posters would like to use there real names and site
specific problems (I don’t see any posts that state a specific problem
they had with TCS or myself).?
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If you would like proof I would be more than happy to send anybody
acceptance letters from banks to show not only do I teach short sales
but I do them also.??
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You can learn this business on your own or you can get help on
learning this business.? I respect everybody that posts concearns or
legitimate?questions and I would be more than happy to address them
personally.? I have nothing to hide, in fact I encourage you to see our
office and meet me personally.?
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I hope everybody has great success in this business.
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Patrick Grom
Did you stick with this? What is your experience to date?